They are a good consistent packet u don’t tent to have bad zyns Look into the copy egp they me a good pouch and are cheap at hole sale and in my experience are a very good pouch the flavour aren’t the best but the but with the consistency of the packet I’ve not seem to have a problem with one pouch is stronger than the next pouch is not strong from when I had a look. You can only buy them if you’re willing to sell them wholesale but if you were to, I think they have a good profit margin.